They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Complete How Little We Know by assisting Big Sal at Gomorrah in his preparations to stage an uprising on the Strip for Caesar (-12). Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Cass to be recruited as a companion again, despite her possible angered departure beforehand which caused her to leave. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. Not undermanned. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. I end up shunned or hated, but I can still enter the NCRCF and do Eddie's quest. The facility is also under observation from the. Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I've done the goodsprings side many times and still did powder gangers quests and walked freely through their territory. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. Thanks everyone for all the info. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. It is also possible to position the player character on the cliff at the southeast side of the facility and perform a running jump over the fence to avoid the entrance fee. Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. Down the line I guess he'll probably give you a job or something but I don't imagine it'd pay much more than Powder gangin', the advantage is that you dont destroy EZ Pete's current mortal shell, Easy Pete can suck my 5.3 inch , I gotta a new Dynamite Daddy. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. Huh. Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). How do I do that? Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. A possible solution is to travel to the Mojave Outpost, put on non-faction clothing/armor, go to where Major Knight is located, save and then speak to Major Knight; select the Speech option asking if there is anything the player can do to help. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). You can loot one from Joe Cobb. NVCE changes their appearance. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. 5. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. What was your reputation with them at that time? Hostile is different. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Valve Corporation. The leader Pearl predicted that one day an outsider would get past the defenses of Nellis and help connect the Boomers with the rest of the world, even if "only a little." Valve Corporation. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. They are going after the wrong objective. Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. I can still walk into their towns, trade, etc. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). Quests Points are accumulated by various means. The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Tai Scott. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? You Have Been Warned. Fallout: New Vegas location NCR Correctional Facility appears only inFallout: New Vegas. Terminals Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Please present your passport. Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. You currently have javascript disabled. Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. Circumstances, but circumstances can change. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). I killed some. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. Joe Cobb): Credits Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Be violent enough and fit right in. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. The ranges of reputation vary by faction. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. Page 1 of 3 - Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me? Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. For more information, please see our As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. Press J to jump to the feed. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. A positive reputation is required to receive the. Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. Unless this was patched in, then no. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary Factions The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? This happened to me when I was vilified. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. 1. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. But there is something weird here. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. If Veronica had never been interacted with before becoming. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . *shrugs*. Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Ref ID Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Snipers form an effective perimeter around the facility. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." ), So I've always sort of helped Ringo out in this mission but this time I decided to help the Powder Gangers. Map It worked for me. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. The leader of the local Powder Gangers, Eddie, will be killed if one sides with the NCR or can be saved if they help the Powder Gangers. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. [Non-game 1] However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River despite the warden's objections. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. This is a very simple mod, all it does is make Joe Cobb and his five Powder Ganger friends associated with the Fiends. I don't think they attack you until you've been villified. All rights reserved. I pretty much couldnt get in but i killed someone close to that area that had a key so i got in and killed every single thing in there. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." . The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. Even if the player character is idolized by the Boomers, the doctor will not provide them any medical attention, saying that he needs any supplies left to treat the wounded. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. This gives you access to a Gangers merchant before the assault and then you can wrap up Ghost Town Gunfight 75% off all statistics are made up on the spot Fighting Deathclaws when you're at LOW level <: P, I fought the law without losing reputation. Fallout: New Vegas. [Non-game 1] Given the fact that the convicts working on the railroads were provided with high explosives in their work and were predominantly violent criminals jailed for serious crimes, this created ripe conditions for a prison break. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. Inhabitants Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. I did several quests with the gangers which all granted rep and then reset my rep to that same nonexistent statelost my access to powder and dynamite for not being a "good boy" despite not attacking any ganger..even those who shot at meThe longer I play this the more Im thinking the boys at Bethesda shoulda put ina few more hours. and they're playing poker! I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. NCR Correctional Facility The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. Posts: 3446. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. All rights reserved. Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? The jail was understaffed. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. I tend to have the same problem with the Legion as well. I didn't realize that was necessarily a bug. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Other than it being the starting area of the game it's pretty boring imo. Mercy killing the NCR trooper hostages (+2). Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned? Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. I see so many ppl on here w/ reputation bugs (myself included)I wish an official fix would come out soon. Not all convicts are evil and malicious they just happen to be on the wrong side of the law, misguidance or they were setup and or given an unfair trial by corrupt and or incompetent governing. My current playthrough has that bug with the Legion. Fallout: New Vegas side quest Ghost Town Gunfight Powder Gangers attacking Goodsprings Location Goodsprings Given by Trudy Ringo Rewards 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company) 150 XP Goodsprings fame +12 Powder Gangers infamy +12 Factions Goodsprings Powder Gangers Related quests Run Goodsprings Run Technical Editor ID